The following interview was conducted with Udo Voigt, the Chairman of the Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD) since 1996, he is a forward looking, determined man, leading one of Europe's largest NR movements.

1. Can you tell our readers something about the formation of the National Democratic Party, including the difficulties of operating in Germany so soon after World War II?

World War II ended with the military defeat of the Axis Powers, and the complete destruction of Germany. The high flown moral language of the then newly founded United Nations, a language which justified the war of annihilation against the German people, proved to be just so much hot air. The so-called "liberation" of Germany on May 8th 1945 cost the lives of another 3,000,000 Germans in the post-war period; Germany lost a third of her territory to Soviet, Czech and Polish Communists; and the victors staged a Court of Revenge in Nuremberg. It was the belief of this ‘court’ that crimes had only been committed by the Germans during the war. Thanks to this court, even today, it is impossible to raise the subject of Allied war crimes and the real war aims of the Democracies. Such an end to a war, which found no form in a Peace Treaty, carries within itself the makings of new injustice.

As a response to this unacceptable situation, and to the CDU, SPD and FDP parties licensed by the Allies, the NPD was founded in November 1964 as a real and alternative national party.

The NPD - like its precursor, the Deutsche Reichspartei - had to live with State repression. In complete contrast to the rules of other civilized countries in the world, Germany permitted, and still permits, members of "unacceptable parties" to be banned from professional life; even the propaganda war against the NPD is financed through public taxation. From the outset, the national television and newspaper networks worked furiously against the NPD - either through a media blackout or through pushing deliberate lies.

To this day, there has been no serious analysis of the NPD’s political programme. The total exclusion of a nationalist party from the day-to-day political life of the Federal Republic - founded in May 1949 - is an indication of the unhealthy condition of this state. Germany badly needs solutions that will allow her to live normally, as many European states do at present.

2. The NPD is well known throughout Europe as a large, successful and yet still a ‘radical’ or ‘national revolutionary’ Movement. Why is this, given the pressures to become ‘soft’ on matters such as Immigration, Zionism, Homosexuality or Freemasonry?

The NPD is pledged as a movement to represent the German people in every aspect of their lives. In our day to day work, this means that we have to deal with aggressive fringe groups promoted by society on the one hand, and with State-sanctioned lawbreaking by many of society’s institutions on the other. Thus, a ‘soft’ line is not even open to the NPD!

Nevertheless, we have to respect the rules of the Constitution and the laws of the present Republic, despite permanent and provocative pressure. Any other course, be it active or even merely written, would give the System a pretext for banning the party. When the day comes that government power will be held by the NPD, we shall solve this matter using the Constitution with great pleasure.

3. Your rallies in defence of the normal German soldier in the Wehrmacht made the newspaper headlines, even here in England. Can you tell us the background to this huge mobilization of the German people in defence of their fathers and grandfathers?

Vae victis - "Woe to the defeated" says the bitter experience of those defeated on the battlefield in the ancient Greek and Roman Empires. The victors of World War II have perfected this saying using modern propaganda techniques and deliberate disinformation. Using the Nuremberg Trials as a basis, the phenomenon of the Third Reich is reduced to one of purely criminal causes. In Germany today, there is a man, Herr Reemtsma, of the vile tobacco industry, who has reserved to himself the right to portray the glorious Wehrmacht in a kind of Hollywood cliché. One day, the history books of this Republic will have to be rewritten in this respect.

4. In the magazine of the ‘English’ Anti-Fascist Action (Fighting Talk), an organizer of the German ‘anti-fascists’ admitted that their membership was mostly middle class, whilst the "fascists" attract huge numbers of working class youth. Would you care to expand on this?

The anti-fascist subculture that can be seen today in Germany is made up of a number of tendencies: middle class elements that come from the Red Army Faction, the Young Socialists of the Social Democrats who adhere strictly to the pseudo-science of Marxism; and the majority of the have-nots from the violent squatter and anarchist scene. This subculture possesses an anti-capitalist view of the world, and views the NPD as an instrument of Capitalism. Such a view of the NPD is fundamentally wrong, and disregards the fact that the Movement will eliminate Capitalism which is so contemptuous of humanity. We will study the potential of the antifascists, and deal with it politically.

5. Aside from the rallies and street activities, what other forms of action does the NPD undertake?

The NPD presents itself publicly in a number of ways. Apart from contesting elections at all levels, the NPD puts great effort into winning over the youth that has lost sight of the need to fight for Germany. In recent months, these efforts have been crowned with growing success.

This success in the field of youth cannot be taken for granted because much of our youth, until now, have been raised to be politically apathetic or mere consumers.

In the cultural field, we offer bands from the nationalist world the possibility of going before the public, thereby aiding the process of national integration.

In addition, the NPD is active in the form of Citizens Initiatives and the mobilization of the masses, with the aim, at this stage, of creating an extra-parliamentary opposition which moulds public opinion and which exerts pressure on the ruling classes.

Finally, the NPD is active in the German Employee Union, which is of a nationalist orientation.

6. Some of our readers have read about the Nationalist singer/songwriter, Frank Rennicke, and some of our people have seen him perform live. Has he managed to bring in a new kind of person to the NPD, or is he representative of young NPD activists? Perhaps you could give us a brief background to his style?

The Young National Democrat, Frank Rennicke, stands in the old tradition of the ‘Liedermacher’ (literally ‘songmaker’) and the balladeers. A Liedermacher is an artist with instrument and vocal training who pillories the Establishment about particular political and cultural grievances, and this in an intellectual manner.

As a stylistic means, irony and ridicule are used, occasionally with biting effect. The traditional instrument of the Liedermacher is the guitar. Thus, Rennicke’s music does without technical effects or electronic noise, the simplicity of the music allowing listeners to concentrate upon the lyrics.

Frank has shown considerable fighting spirit when faced with attacks from the Left and repression from the State. Thanks to his example, there are now numerous national Liedermachers to be found throughout Germany.

7. Outside Germany, many groups use pictures of the NPD - especially the large rallies - and say "our German Comrades". Some of these lunatic fringe and reactionary mainstream groups like to feed off the good name of the NPD. What would you say to them, and to the genuine National Revolutionaries of the Third Position?

National Socialism, which incarnated itself in a Fuhrer-State, is a product of the history of the Twenties and Thirties. This historical uniqueness, born as a response to the Versailles Treaty after World War I, cannot be repeated. Every imitation of the NSDAP by small groups both inside and outside Germany are, therefore, doomed to fail because they are an enormous misinterpretation of the political realities of the Nineties.

The NPD is a Movement of the People which will implement its programme of building a Third Power beyond Capitalism and Communism, thereby giving self-determination to the people.

At the centre of our struggle is mankind and Nature. Thanks to our life-giving view of the world, we stand against foreign rule and domination, against foreign penetration, exploitation and oppression. We stand for German freedom, for the freedom of peoples, for a New Social Order in both Germany and Europe.

8. Much is made of the problems the German Establishment has in the former East Germany by the ‘English’ media. Can you explain the real situation to us?

During the period of Communist rule, the German Democratic Republic was fully integrated into the internationalist ideology of Soviet origin. Economically, the country was plundered by the Soviet power through the dismantling of existing industries and endless repressive measures. Compared to the capabilities of the German economy during the peaceful years of the Thirties, it was given a subordinate role as a satellite of the USSR. Nevertheless, in the final phase of the GDR, the basic economic requirements were met, there was an adequate medical system, and there was employment for all. Thus did the GDR become the leading economic power in the Communist economic bloc, COMECON. Of course, the yearning and desires of the Germans living in the GDR for national unity, freedom and prosperity were not fulfilled.

The unification of East and West Germany in 1989 produced an initial euphoria, but this was destroyed by blunt and harsh realities. The ‘globalization of the economy’, record unemployment at 25%, the exploitation of the people by speculators, the arrival of asylum seekers, criminals and profiteers from all corners of the world, as well as deep insecurity about their future, has led the young in particular to realize that the phoney parties of Bonn and the economic liberalism pushed by the Kohl government have pulled East Germany into a vortex of decline.

The stirring of Nationalism, as a counter movement coming from the grassroots, has put fear into the ruling political class. This class senses its own uselessness and fears that a development will take place which will sweep it aside as quickly as was Erich Honecker’s in 1989. Thus, the oligarchy in Bonn is seeking to restore control by criminalizing defiant national youth, by using politically motivated laws, and restricting free speech by, for example, a complete ban on public rallies. Such tranquillity, however, is merely the lull before the storm.

9. You have been working with the International Third Position for some time now. How do you view this co-operation?

The youth wing of the NPD, the Young National Democrats (JN), issued a discussion paper some years ago in which a Third Way beyond Capitalism and Communism was promoted. The NPD mother party had already pledged itself in 1977 to National Liberation, and with that clearly renounced chauvinistic tendencies. The analysis of the enemy position, therefore, converges with the ideas of the International Third Position.

We must, therefore, enrich the political culture of our organizations through mutual visits, and exchanges of thoughts and ideas about current ideological developments. The NPD looks forward greatly to this task.

10. German comrades are often present at Nationalist rallies around Europe, such as Diksmuide in Flanders, Madrid on November 20th in Spain and in Romania at Legionary celebrations. Given this and your co-operation with the ITP and other National Revolutionary groups, would you say that international co-operation is important to you as a Movement?

International co-operation is very highly regarded by the NPD. The rule of multi-national capital, following the American declaration of a New World Order, cannot be eliminated on the national level alone. The peoples of Europe must together pursue an analysis of the political and economic situation, and in joint committees work out a transnational strategy for gaining political power taking into account individual national and historical interests. The aim is a Europe made up of National States, without the conflicts of past centuries, and which will be a counter pole to other centres of power on other continents.

11. Given that Nationalists believe in "No More Brothers’ Wars", and that increasingly nationalities who could be considered as being historically hostile are forming allegiances to fight the New World Order (i.e., English and Irish militants co-operating as never before), what is your position with the Polish National Revolutionary movement, the NOP?

Germany has a valid claim under international law to the return of certain Eastern Territories taken from her by Poland after World War II. A wrong does not become a right through the mere passage of time! However, the NPD believes that an armed solution to this problem, as was customary internationally in the past, is out of the question. Poland and Germany will, through embracing new economic solutions, find a peaceful way to secure justice and lasting peace. Our claims do not prevent the NPD from exchanging views with the Polish National Revolutionaries!

Germany has in her history, many things in common with the ethnically-related peoples of the East. We would like to keep up good, old traditions, and we wish these peoples well in their endeavours to overcome the rudimentary structures of the Soviet period, and in their efforts to resist American imperialism.

12. How do you see the future of the NPD and the future of Germany?

The NPD sees itself as a popular people’s party that respects the principles of a constitutional state. This means in Germany the power to govern will lead from the streets to the Parliament. The "fight on the streets" has begun. The NPD is now able to mobilize tens of thousands of people. We must now begin the "fight for minds"! During this phase, we must use capable intellectuals from all levels in society so as to build our ideology of a New Order beyond Capitalism and Communism. In the third phase, we must aim to "fight for the Parliament" and take power.

We are greatly concerned about the future of Germany and of Europe. The global threat to our nations by multi-national banks and companies working in harness with the ruling class is having a destructive effect on our peoples.

The German example reveals clearly:

• The German people, developed over the course of 2,000 years, is being replaced through the endless immigration of non-European immigrants. The conflicts caused by this already have disturbed social peace. The chief of the Verfassungsschutz, the German internal security service, has admitted in an interview that there already exists a parallel Islamic society.

• The outstanding achievements of the German social system are being more and more replaced by minimal standards.

• The intended elimination of millions of jobs and the creation of intolerable and permanent unemployment is driving large populations all around Europe into poverty and debt.

   

• The dumbing of the education system is now destroying the hitherto good reputation for science and research.

   

• The impact of serious crime, being organized internationally by gangs of criminals, is massive and striking at defenceless populations.

The NPD aims to replace those in power, so as to give the German People a secure future within the European Family of Nations!