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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Archbishop of York tells General Synod that ‘Our Father’ has patriarchal connotations The archbishop of York has suggested that opening words of the Lord’s Prayer, recited by Christians all over the world for 2,000 years, may be “problematic” because of &#8230; <a class="kt-excerpt-readmore" href="https://www.garnertedarmstrong.org/lords-prayer-opening-may-be-problematic-says-archbishop/" aria-label="Lord’s Prayer opening may be ‘problematic’, says archbishop">Read More</a></p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Archbishop of York tells General Synod that ‘Our Father’ has patriarchal connotations</strong></p>
<p class="dcr-iyhl1z">The archbishop of York has suggested that opening words of the Lord’s Prayer, recited by Christians all over the world for 2,000 years, may be “problematic” because of their patriarchal association.</p>
<p class="dcr-iyhl1z">In his opening address to a meeting of the Church of England’s ruling body, the General Synod, Stephen Cottrell dwelt on the words “Our Father”, the start of the prayer based on Matthew 6:9–13 and Luke 11:2–4 in the New Testament.</p>
<p class="dcr-iyhl1z">“I know the word ‘father’ is problematic for those whose experience of earthly fathers has been destructive and abusive, and for all of us who have laboured rather too much from an oppressively patriarchal grip on life,” he said.</p>
<p>His comment – a brief aside in a speech that focused on the need for unity – will divide members of the C of E, a body whose differences on issues of sexuality, identity and equality have been highly visible for years.</p>
<p>Continue reading <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/07/lords-prayer-our-father-opening-may-be-problematic-archbishop-of-york-stephen-cottrell">HERE</a></p>
<p><strong>Source:</strong> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/07/lords-prayer-our-father-opening-may-be-problematic-archbishop-of-york-stephen-cottrell</p>
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		<title>Pope Francis Suggests Changing The Words To The &#8216;Lord&#8217;s Prayer&#8217;</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In an interview this week, Pope Francis criticized the phrasing about temptation in the Lord&#8217;s Prayer. The pontiff is pictured here at the Vatican in April. Franco Origlia/Getty Images Pope Francis isn&#8217;t pleased with the words to the Lord&#8217;s Prayer &#8230; <a class="kt-excerpt-readmore" href="https://www.garnertedarmstrong.org/pope-francis-suggests-changing-words-lords-prayer/" aria-label="Pope Francis Suggests Changing The Words To The &#8216;Lord&#8217;s Prayer&#8217;">Read More</a></p>
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<p>Pope Francis isn&#8217;t pleased with the words to the Lord&#8217;s Prayer — specifically, the part about temptation.</p>
<p>In <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FF3aO4t0c">an interview</a> with an Italian TV network, the pontiff said that the current language of the Our Father prayer &#8220;is not a good translation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p4s2.htm">In English</a> and <a href="http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism_it/p4s2_it.htm">similarly in Italian</a>, the prayer asks God to &#8220;lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.&#8221; But, says Francis, it&#8217;s not the Lord that tempts.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is not He that pushes me into temptation and then sees how I fall,&#8221; Francis said in Italian. &#8220;A father does not do this. A father quickly helps those who are provoked into Satan&#8217;s temptation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Francis pointed out that just a few days ago, France&#8217;s Catholic church <a href="http://eglise.catholique.fr/approfondir-sa-foi/prier/prieres/372214-notre-pere/">adopted new phrasing</a> in its <em>Notre Père</em>.</p>
<p>&#8220;[T]he first Sunday of Advent,&#8221; the church wrote, &#8220;a new translation of the Our Father will come into force in all forms of liturgy. The Catholic faithful will no longer say: &#8216;Do not submit to temptation&#8217; but &#8216;Do not let us enter into temptation.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>Among the best-known prayers in Christianity, the Our Father is &#8220;a translation from the Latin vulgate, which was translated from ancient Greek, which was in turn translated from Aramaic, the language spoken by Jesus,&#8221; <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-religion-pope-prayer/pope-wants-better-translation-of-phrase-on-temptation-in-our-father-prayer-idUSKBN1E11CX">Reuters reports</a>.</p>
<p>An Anglican theologian <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/08/lead-us-not-into-mistranslation-pope-wants-lords-prayer-changed">told</a> <em>The Guardian</em> that any changes to the prayer&#8217;s wording could pose some risk.</p>
<p>&#8220;The word in question is <em>peirasmos</em> [from New Testament Greek] which means both to tempt and to be tested,&#8221; the Rev. Ian Paul told the newspaper. &#8220;So on one level the pope has a point. But he&#8217;s also stepping into a theological debate about the nature of evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Paul added: &#8220;In terms of church culture, people learn this prayer by heart as children.If you tweak the translation, you risk disrupting the pattern of communal prayer. You fiddle with it at your peril.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the <em>National Catholic Reporter</em> <a href="https://www.ncronline.org/news/theology/does-god-lead-us-sin-new-french-our-father-says-no">noted</a> that even after decades of debate, the change went over fairly smoothly in France, &#8220;even if some parishioners mumbled the wrong phrase&#8221;:</p>
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<p>&#8220;On Sunday, many parishes passed out sheets containing the new French text, with the changed words in bold, to help hesitant parishioners along. At Saint-Ignace, the Jesuit church in Paris, the new wording was written across a large banner for all to see.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fr. Emmanuel Schwab, pastor of Saint-Léon Parish in Paris, said the new translation was &#8216;less ambiguous&#8217; than the earlier wording.</p>
<p>&#8221; &#8216;The version &#8216;do not submit us to temptation&#8217; made some people think God threw banana peels in front of people to see if they would slip and fall, but that is absolutely not the biblical view of God,&#8217; he said after Mass.&#8221;</p>
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<p><em>NPR&#8217;s Tori Whitley contributed to this report.<br />
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<p>Source: <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/08/569385769/pope-francis-suggests-changing-the-words-to-lord-s-prayer" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/08/569385769/pope-francis-suggests-changing-the-words-to-lord-s-prayer</a></p>
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